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'Bachelor Pad' Kalon McMahon Q&A: "Lindzi and I are 100% dating'

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Kalon McMahon might have gone into Bachelor Pad as a villain - thanks to that infamous "baggage" comment on The Bachelorette earlier this year - but it's fair to say he won a few people over when he fell for fellow contestant Lindzi Cox.

The couple's time in the Bachelor Pad mansion was cut short this week when they were eliminated from the competition, but Kalon recently spoke to reporters about his time on the show. Read on to find out what he had to say about the current status of his relationship with Lindzi, see him hit back at Ed's comment that he "isolated" himself, and discover how he feels about Erica now...

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A lot of people had a strong reaction to your time on The Bachelorette, but you seemed much more likeable on Bachelor Pad. Did you change your strategy going in? Did Lindzi bring out the best in you?
"I can't say that I had a specific strategy going into either show. We filmed them very, very close so I was still the same person. It was just a very different environment. I was much more comfortable, much happier, much more outgoing on Bachelor Pad just because of the dynamics. And I had a much, much better connection with Lindzi than I ever did with Emily, so naturally I am going to be a happier person. I'm going to be myself.

"The Bachelorette was my first experience in TV so it was a little bit overwhelming and I just think by the time we filmed Bachelor Pad I was a little more comfortable. I was aware of what was going on and just in the state where I could absolutely enjoy myself and specifically my time with Lindzi much, much more."

How confident were you that you'd managed to save yourself and Lindzi before this week's rose ceremony?
"Lindzi and I were pretty much aware that we were going on that day. We had mentally prepared ourselves - we were okay with it. As much as we wanted to be there and to win the money, we saw how ugly the game was starting to get and we both promised each other that we weren't going to be that emotional couple running around the house throwing ourselves at people, lobbying for votes, because we knew that when we left the house - as sad and frustrating as that might be - that was going to be the start of our real relationship.

"We were the first people to acknowledge that your relationship in the house is going to be very different than your relationship in the real world and we'd grown so close to each other in the house that we were honestly kind of ready to take that next step. We realized that the chances of us actually winning the money in the end were probably slim... We kind of knew the dynamic that was forming that they were ready for us to get out of the house. I think everyone realized that if we did end up in the finals with them, we were so well-liked in the house that no-one was going to win against us."

Before the rose ceremonies, it seemed like you could tell everyone what they wanted to hear and convince them you were telling them the truth. How did you do that? Were they all just easy to play?
"I think the way the show is framed, it gives me too much credit! Lindzi and I honestly went into the rose ceremonies with a clear idea in our head who we were voting for because it was usually the obvious decision... I'm not a confrontational person. It is much easier to just simply tell someone what they want to hear, agree with them, and then go on about your business, because until the very end the voting was secret. No-one knew who you were voting for until Chris had the brilliant idea to take Erica into the voting booth with him and then that changed the dynamic of everything.

"But I didn't consider it lying or being deceitful. It's just the name of the game. It's an awkward game that you wouldn't play in real life, so in order to thrive you just have to tell people what they want to hear."

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You obviously didn't get on with Erica before Bachelor Pad, and she told us last week that she thought you were friends on the show - until she watched it back and saw your comments about her. How do you view your relationship?
"Just because we are from the same city and we have some similar friends, that doesn't necessarily mean we are friends. I for many years now have made a very deliberate effort to distance myself from Erica because I simply didn't agree with the way she presents herself in real life and on TV. I just don't find her to be a classy, interesting girl, and I really didn't want to be guilty by association simply because we were on the same television show.

"She went on some website saying, 'Kalon and I are friends' and then she did this classless, classless act where she went and sold some story to Star Magazine about my ex-girlfriend and I... She was the first to admit that's the only reason they let her on Bachelor Pad, because she instigated some tabloid drama with me.

"I'm never going to be rude to someone's face, but after she went out of her way to do that, then I could no longer bite my tongue... Unfortunately for Erica, Erica really does believe that any publicity is good publicity but I'm the first person to tell you that's not the case. Fortunately once we were in the house and we got past that drama, I think Erica realized her place in the house and that she was in a much better position if she was just nice to people. Then you saw that footage where she is being mean to the fans and calling David ugly and stupid. A girl in her position should be trying to make friends, not alienate people. I don't have a lot of respect for her as a person, the way she conducts herself in life and on the television show."

Erica also said that she thought the relationship between Michael and Rachel might have been more strategic than genuine.
"I thought it was absolutely real. Michael was one of my closer friends in the house... Rachel is an awesome girl as well. I was really hoping it was genuine, and then I realized when they left that he's going to be in California and she's in New York. I know how hard a long-distance relationship is because I'm doing it with Lindzi right now. I think those emotions you saw were absolutely real. When you are in that house sharing it with someone you care about all day, every day, and then all of a sudden you are ripped apart from each other...

"Their relationship was ended by Erica, who was supposed to be a friend of Michael and that's what was so frustrating. The words that Erica had for Michael after her departure again shows her true character. She demonstrated zero class, zero empathy, so when she gets upset that someone said something about her, it's a bit hypocritical, because she just runs around running her mouth and I just have no tolerance for that."

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It's unusual that you, Chris and Tony lasted so long because you didn't really know the other Bachelor Pad stars very well.
"There are a lot of different dynamics going on - I was not necessarily aware of them for the first week or two because I didn't necessarily know who everyone was... As the weeks progressed we were realizing they were all dictating each other's throats and being one of the outsiders initially I was completely unaware of that dynamic. Fortunately I lasted long enough to figure that out before I fell victim to it.

"The first night, Chris, Tony and I were like, 'If we stick together, we do have a strong force here - at least enough to guide some votes'. But then you saw that be abandoned pretty quickly, because one of the first weeks Chris came to me saying, 'Hey, let's vote off Tony'... And then as the weeks progressed, Chris just became a wildcard. You saw him target Tony. You saw him target me. You'll see it progress because who you think are best friends in alliances and are going to save each other definitely kind of pans out towards the end."

Do you think the fans helped you stay around longer as they were targets initially?
"They probably took the target off our backs for those first few weeks. At the same time, I really didn't approve of or appreciate how [the others] targeted them as people just because they were new. It's fine to target them from a strategic standpoint... but to say, 'You don't deserve to be here'? We couldn't even have the opportunity to make the show if it wasn't for people like SWAT and David.

"I saw how much it meant for David to be there and he hadn't done anything wrong. He was just trying to be proactive in keeping himself there and there's nothing wrong with having a gameplan to do that. So when I saw a window where I could keep him around and send someone else home that really wasn't contributing to our dynamic, I said 'Let's do that', knowing how much of a loyal guy he was and that when it came down the road he'd have our back.

"I thought it was fun and interesting to have them partake in the show and they were obviously so appreciative. The only ones that I didn't particularly care for were the twins. They were absolutely unbearable to live with in the house. I have no tolerance for drunk people that scream and cry and are emotional."

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Do you think it was strategically a bad move to get so close to Lindzi? Ed told us you kind of isolated yourselves a little bit.
"At the end of the day, my personal life is much more important to me than the game show. We saw how Ed conducted himself on the show in regards to his relationships with women. I'm not going to be offended if he points out that it was a bad move strategically that Lindzi and I genuinely enjoyed our time together... We were just hanging out and doing our own thing and I have no problem with that. If that led to us being kicked off, then that's fine. I won't lose any sleep over that. But honestly, I think the reason we were kicked off is because everyone acknowledged that if we made it to the finals that no-one was going to win against us, because we were well-liked by everyone in the house, especially the fans... I don't know why walking into that house anyone would think of the fans any differently than any of us."

Can you confirm that you are 100% dating Lindzi now? There's loads of rumors around that you've broken up.
"We are absolutely, 100% dating. You can't believe everything you read. I read some other article that said my net worth was $3m. That's certainly not true either - I wish! We have spent plenty of weekends together. We talk on the phone all day every day and whenever I get a chance she either comes down here or I go up to Seattle. It is unfortunately a long distance relationship but as far as those go it's the best, healthiest relationship we could ask for at this point."

Did you guys speak about your time on The Bachelorette and Lindzi's time on Bachelor Pad? How did she feel about the "baggage" comment?
"To be honest, that's how I immediately knew I liked Lindzi. The first night in the house everyone obviously gave me the third degree - they were interested in what happened, but the beautiful part about being around people that have been on the show is they are completely aware what it's like to be filmed and have things taken out of context and used against you. And Lindzi was the very first one to come up to me and say, 'You know what, I get it... Maybe you didn't say it the way you intended to, but you're kind of right. I get what you were trying to convey'.

"She really put me at ease and made me feel comfortable, and then we had a long-winded conversation about it over the next couple days and she filled me in on her season with Ben... I did watch her fall in love on TV with this other guy, which was a little weird now that I was completely crushing on her. At the same time, I understand how the show is made, so I get it and we were sympathetic towards each other in both regards. It absolutely did not hinder our relationship whatsoever."

What most attracted you to Lindzi?
"We literally have identical personalities. We make the same stupid jokes, we both have no filter, and we both get each other's stupid jokes. What's frustrating to me is that they never show that side of Lindzi. They just show her being this sweet, bubbly, innocent girl, but they don't give her enough credit. She is hilarious in both seasons but they never showcased that side of her. That's what I absolutely fell in love with - she is one of the funniest, outspoken, most witty girls I've ever come across and that's why I was so attracted to. We both make those awkward jokes that we get, that half the other room might not get, but we get each other."

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You said you fared better on Bachelor Pad than The Bachelorette - do you think you'd still have fallen for Lindzi on The Bachelorette?
"It's hard to say. Obviously I would hope that it would have done better because I was very, very attracted to Lindzi in many many ways. But it's so funny. ABC sets out to form these couples and let people fall in love, but as crazy as it may seem, Bachelor Pad is actually a much, much healthier environment for that. I know that's hard to believe considering what goes on there, but you actually get to spend time with that person that you are interested in every day, all day long. You're not spending incremental time with them for 15 minutes here, 20 minutes there, and then going back to a house full of crazy people that are all competing for the same person... I think getting to spend time with someone, that's really how you get to know them. So it was much, much easier for us to form and develop a healthy relationship in that environment, believe it or not."

Did you initially go into Bachelor Pad for love or money? Did that change once you got in there and met Lindzi?
"I was the first one to admit before I did the show that I was absolutely there for the money, 100%, because following my stint on Emily's season I kind of lost faith in the idea that you can find a healthy relationship under the confines of this show. And then once I got on Bachelor Pad I realized how different the dynamic of the show is. Its a much more natural environment... So once I realized that dynamic and obviously met Lindzi, yes, that did change.

"My relationship with Lindzi became the priority but at the same time I realized that the only real way you were going to even have a shot at winning that money is if you have a good relationship with someone you can trust. So it kind of became a two-for-one. That's not to say I would have formed a relationship with anyone just realizing that it's a prerequisite to win - I kind of lucked out.

"Lindzi is probably the only reason that I made it as far as we did, but at the same time when we left I was okay with it... I think we were the only couple that left the house with a smile on our face, being okay. This is honestly when our relationship really starts because everything else was just a foundation. If nothing else, Bachelor Pad was just a launchpad for our relationship."

Bachelor Pad airs Mondays on ABC.

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